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I'm going to have to watch tonight's episode again. I don't even have enough to say about this episode to even bother with spoilers.

Suffice to say (and this should not be a surprise to anyone who's been watching) that I feel a bit like my brain has been put into a sandwich press.

Oi.

Does everyone in the future have to have slicked back hair?

Date: 2007-05-01 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
Is that what happened?

Oi. I an't keep it all straight. This show is 10x's loopier than DW. My brain is tied in more knots than my kids sneakers.

Another thing I'm wondering: How the hell did Sylar regenerate if Claire was still alive? Future!Hiro says he tried to kill him but he regenerated. Only two other characters can do that and they were both alive. It made sense with Claire dead, but when we found out she was alive? I did a total "wtf?". So Sylar couldn't regenerate. The only one capable of having both the shape shifting and regenerative powers is Peter. But why the hell would Peter pose as Sylar? Unless it was to stage some sort of scene showing Sylar getting caught and killed. Thereby making Nathan look like the heroic leader.

Gah. Getting in too deep again.

Date: 2007-05-01 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
Oh shit.

What if it was Future!Sylar instead of present day? If he took Future!Hiro's powers before he actually died, he could go back and...

*kablooey goes ivy's brain*

I'll go get the mop.

Date: 2007-05-01 06:05 pm (UTC)
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Much debate about alternate timelines and when/whether they exist and how you can visit them ensued in our household last night.

Our conclusion, more or less, was that Hiro's only partially done what's necessary to avert the future he saw last night. It doesn't entirely make sense. Future!Hiro remembers trying to kill Sylar and having him regenerate. However, they've saved Claire, so Sylar is vulnerable. But that hasn't (yet? or are they simply stuck in one of many possible alternate futures?) changed Future!Hiro's memory of events. Except clearly it's altered other people's memories of events; Bennet knows she's alive. Present-Hiro hasn't reached the point in his timeline where he's going to try to kill Sylar; therefore, Sylar is still alive in this future, even though he's not invulnerable. Maybe. I was arguing that Future!Hiro couldn't possibly remember Claire dying if the past had changed, but my boyfriend was trying to justify it. Or maybe Hiro, being able to travel in time, is immune from memory effects from timeline changes (Rose and the Doctor, after all, remember the events of Father's Day). Argh.

Date: 2007-05-01 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
That's it. I'm declaring a three drink minimum before watching the show.

Date: 2007-05-02 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com
I think basically we've been watching too much Doctor Who and are trying to explain it in the context of that show's science fiction.

Heroes has a very looping and mutually dependent series of timelines, and there's just not the risk of things causing paradoxes. In order to change one possible future, Hiro has to experience pieces of futures that aren't his. It's a mindfuck, yeah, but I think I can get that part.

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