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I'm going to have to watch tonight's episode again. I don't even have enough to say about this episode to even bother with spoilers.

Suffice to say (and this should not be a surprise to anyone who's been watching) that I feel a bit like my brain has been put into a sandwich press.

Oi.

Does everyone in the future have to have slicked back hair?

Date: 2007-05-01 04:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] platypus
Does everyone in the future have to have slicked back hair?

They are their own evil twins!

(I haven't actually watched yet.)

Date: 2007-05-02 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com
It's the easy physical way to show Present!Character from Future!Character. It cracks me up that both Hiro and Ando call the future him Future Hiro. Bwahahahaha.

Date: 2007-05-01 05:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] starlightmoonla.livejournal.com
I know how you feel. This is the first time that I've actually had to consciously listen to what was going on because I knew I would get lost along the way.

Loved the episode although I'm still confused about a couple of things. Only three more episodes left!

Does everyone in the future have to have slicked back hair?

LOL Must be the current fashion trend...

Date: 2007-05-02 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com
Oh, I've had to pay attention before, but this was a little intense. I'll rewatch and see what I missed.

Date: 2007-05-01 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
I'm still mopping up my brains from watching that. AND I'm pretty sure I'm going to be getting complaints from the neighbors about my rather enthusiastic response to Mohinder's actions. Heh.

Something that occurred to me though, the Doctor who have a fit from the temporal paradoxes. I mean, Hiro gets the sword from his future self? How the hell did his future self get it? Oh and I still haven't figured out how Sylar regenerated if Claire was still alive. Unless he was Peter. Oi. I need a drink, then maybe this will all make sense.

Date: 2007-05-01 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kb91.livejournal.com
I mean, Hiro gets the sword from his future self? How the hell did his future self get it?

Wait ... didn't Hiro steal the sword from Linderman in Las Vegas? That's why Ando is still dressed as a security guard at the beginning, because he'd disguised himself to help with the theft. I'm pretty sure both Hiros had swords when the future scene started because one of my clues that it was going to be Future!Hiro in the studio was that you heard him draw the sword, then heard the same sound as Hiro drew his.

And yes, this show makes my brain go all mushy ... you'd think we'd be used to all the time paradoxes with DW. ;)

Now if only I could find a copy of the preview for next week online ... my stupid DVR cut off too early and missed it. Argh!

Date: 2007-05-01 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
Is that what happened?

Oi. I an't keep it all straight. This show is 10x's loopier than DW. My brain is tied in more knots than my kids sneakers.

Another thing I'm wondering: How the hell did Sylar regenerate if Claire was still alive? Future!Hiro says he tried to kill him but he regenerated. Only two other characters can do that and they were both alive. It made sense with Claire dead, but when we found out she was alive? I did a total "wtf?". So Sylar couldn't regenerate. The only one capable of having both the shape shifting and regenerative powers is Peter. But why the hell would Peter pose as Sylar? Unless it was to stage some sort of scene showing Sylar getting caught and killed. Thereby making Nathan look like the heroic leader.

Gah. Getting in too deep again.

Date: 2007-05-01 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
Oh shit.

What if it was Future!Sylar instead of present day? If he took Future!Hiro's powers before he actually died, he could go back and...

*kablooey goes ivy's brain*

I'll go get the mop.

Date: 2007-05-01 06:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] platypus
Much debate about alternate timelines and when/whether they exist and how you can visit them ensued in our household last night.

Our conclusion, more or less, was that Hiro's only partially done what's necessary to avert the future he saw last night. It doesn't entirely make sense. Future!Hiro remembers trying to kill Sylar and having him regenerate. However, they've saved Claire, so Sylar is vulnerable. But that hasn't (yet? or are they simply stuck in one of many possible alternate futures?) changed Future!Hiro's memory of events. Except clearly it's altered other people's memories of events; Bennet knows she's alive. Present-Hiro hasn't reached the point in his timeline where he's going to try to kill Sylar; therefore, Sylar is still alive in this future, even though he's not invulnerable. Maybe. I was arguing that Future!Hiro couldn't possibly remember Claire dying if the past had changed, but my boyfriend was trying to justify it. Or maybe Hiro, being able to travel in time, is immune from memory effects from timeline changes (Rose and the Doctor, after all, remember the events of Father's Day). Argh.

Date: 2007-05-01 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
That's it. I'm declaring a three drink minimum before watching the show.

Date: 2007-05-02 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com
I think basically we've been watching too much Doctor Who and are trying to explain it in the context of that show's science fiction.

Heroes has a very looping and mutually dependent series of timelines, and there's just not the risk of things causing paradoxes. In order to change one possible future, Hiro has to experience pieces of futures that aren't his. It's a mindfuck, yeah, but I think I can get that part.

Date: 2007-05-01 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measi.livejournal.com
Slicked back hair = iconic comic book evil / brooding


But yeah, I need to watch it again, too. I *think* I get most of it. I absolutely loved how Adrian Passar started channeling Sylar's pattern of speech. Creeped me out.

And I really need a heroes icon.

Date: 2007-05-01 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] lay_of_luthien has awesome Heroes icons.

<--- see? hee! I love Hiro.

Date: 2007-05-01 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] measi.livejournal.com
Rock. Thank you for the tip... going over there now. :)

Date: 2007-05-02 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com
I didn't catch the speech thing but I'll pay attention when I watch again. Loved Peter's moves. Gack. And I don't generally think he's all that attractive, although he's easy on the eyes.

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