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kalleaheponymous_rose , a brilliant idea which I take zero credit for:This is something I've concocted primarily because I want confirmation that I'm not the only one with a folder full of half-finished fiction on my desktop that might never get written at this rate. So here you are! The Work-in-Progress Meme! When you see this, post a little weensy excerpt from as many random works-in-progress as you can find lying around. Who knows? Maybe inspiration will burst forth and do something, um, inspiration-y.
A dream sequence I cut from Voyages of Discovery because it just didn't work at all there, but I've held onto it. Eventually, it may be its own story. Rose's POV.
The flash of white light all around and the almost instantaneous crack of thunder caused her to duck down. Her nostrils filled with the sharp smell of ozone. She tried to remember the advice she had been given on thunderstorms and knew the last place she wanted to be was on the top of a treeless hill. She stumbled down the hill. Even the small rocks scattered in the grass stabbed at the bottom of her feet and she ignored the discomfort, finding the lowest spot she could spot in the empty grassland around her and dropping to her knees. She curled up into a ball, hands curled protectively around her head.
Cut from The Hidden Well:
Rose could have filled volumes with the sentences he didn't finish. She knew what he meant, though, and it wasn't about the innuendo in his words. These days, she couldn't stop herself reaching for his hand, slipping an arm around him, or making any of the countless other gestures that tied them together. They had always been physically affectionate with one another, but there was a degree of need in their touches that was new.
A tease of a very-nearly-completed vignette that I'll post after The Hidden Well is finished:Jacob, to Rose's amusement, took a single biscuit and nibbled on it as delicately as a rather stout, bald man could be said to nibble. His puffy beard waggled in the air as he chewed. She knew he occasionally afforded himself such small luxuries despite his ascetic lifestyle. For one, the Doctor supplied him with Refallan tobacco, which Rose had seen him pack into a dark wooden pipe but never smoke. Tea, apparently, was not a luxury.
The refrains from a somewhat fictional perspective story, not at all fanfiction:
When I was a child, said Salome,
I saw with a child's eyes. I thought with a child's mind.
When I was a child, said Salome,
I loved with a child's heart. I wept with a child's tears.
When I was a child, said Salome,
I danced with a child's feet. I touched with a child's hands.
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Date: 2007-07-27 05:13 am (UTC)Snagging it myself to post once I've caught up with the flist.
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Date: 2007-07-28 07:40 pm (UTC)This week, I treated myself to the luxury of reading through ‘The Calm Before the Storm,’ and ‘Voyages of Discovery’ in succession. Now, as I’m sure you know, I was reading both of these when they were WIP’s and I thought they were wonderful then. However, reading them again made me appreciate just how exceptional your series, ‘The Process of Becoming’ is. My reading prompted these questions:
1. The heartbreaking epilogue at the end of TCBTS, where the Doctor revisits the cottage, seems to mirror what Rose sees out of the corner of her eye when she is in the mirror room in VoD. Did you do this deliberately? By that, I mean were the movements Rose saw, the movements of the Doctor in that epilogue scene?
2. You wrote a thread a while ago about your own canon for ‘The Process of Becoming.’ Among many other things, you said that Jackie was prepared for Rose to leave her, for the Doctor when they arrived at Bad Wolf Bay and also that the Doctor truly believed that he would never see Rose again. I was just wondering if you formulated these views purely with your own series in mind, of if they stemmed from what you saw in the series (because the points you made, I also agreed with, from the perspective of the series canon.)
3. You have said that Rose cannot get pregnant in your universe – fair enough, as I can certainly see the advantages of this… ;o) but what’s your take on that particular part of the conversation in ‘Doomsday’? Part of me has always felt that it would be fitting that the woman so dear to him may turn out to be the key to the continuation of his race (of sorts).
So, why am I giving you the third degree? Well, quite simply, your works are now so exhaustive, yet for me, they remain so unfailingly true to the characters, that it feels you have based it on your interpretation of the series canon (which happens to be pretty much identical to mine!) At no point, in the (now) hundreds of pages, do I think, “hmm, not sure about that…” It’s more like, “oh, I can so see that happening!” That really is quite an achievement. The unstinting attention to detail in every chapter has such a synergistic effect; we truly see everything through the eyes of the characters (which you illustrated to great effect in ‘Perception’) so much so that we ‘live’ the experience.
I’m loving ‘The Hidden Well’ and the Doctor/Rose moments are gorgeous. You have proved that even when sexual tension between two characters is resolved, with good writing, it is possible to keep the flame alive and retain that sense of anticipation (I love the way Rose keeps him on his toes…) Please keep writing in this universe forever, because whilst there are some very good fics out there, this is truly in a league of its own.
::Quiet little nudge, nudge, wink, wink in RTD’s direction – if you’re looking for someone to take the helm for S5, I think I know someone…::
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Date: 2007-07-29 12:49 am (UTC)I'm glad you responded like this, because it made me think, and that's always a good thing. I'm very flattered that you reread and enjoyed the other two stories. You are so kind.
The heartbreaking epilogue at the end of TCBTS, where the Doctor revisits the cottage, seems to mirror what Rose sees out of the corner of her eye when she is in the mirror room in VoD.
An interesting observation. No, I didn't. I was ambiguous about what Rose saw. I wanted there to be evidence that there was a thinness, at least for her, in the wall between the worlds. It's a reasonable interpretation that she might see the Doctor when he returned to the room, but she did see something on more than one occasion.
Among many other things, you said that Jackie was prepared for Rose to leave her, for the Doctor when they arrived at Bad Wolf Bay and also that the Doctor truly believed that he would never see Rose again. I was just wondering if you formulated these views purely with your own series in mind, of if they stemmed from what you saw in the series
That's my interpretation of canon as well as how I chose to present it in the story. I firmly believe that Rose thought she was leaving when she saw the Doctor on the beach. That for me explains why she broke down to the degree that she did. She hoped, and then the hope was gone, and that's almost worse in a way. Jackie, Pete, and Mickey would have known that she expected not to return with them and presumably would have made some peace with it.
You have said that Rose cannot get pregnant in your universe – fair enough, as I can certainly see the advantages of this… ;o) but what’s your take on that particular part of the conversation in ‘Doomsday’?
In canon, maybe she can. In my canon, she can't. Or, more properly, the Doctor can't get her pregnant. I would assume Rose is capable of having children without him. Actually, we'll get into a bit of that in chapter six of The Hidden Well.
For the conversation ... I think he had some hope, for a moment, that she was pregnant. In my interpretation, she was not. He may say "impossible," but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't carry some small fragment of hope when she said something about a baby. If he's wrong about that, what else might he be wrong about?
I’m loving ‘The Hidden Well’ and the Doctor/Rose moments are gorgeous.
I'm glad; it's a very different story than what I have done before. For one, the plot of it is more important, rather than simply the exploration of character. For another, there's the abundance of secondary characters, and that is challenging -- not to get too far afield but to make sure that they have their own personalities and motivations that are evident to the reader.
As for more writing ... I keep doing just that. I've got a finished vignette of the Doctor, Rose, and Jacob that I'll post when The Hidden Well is finished, and then I have to get into the story I need to tell about the Doctor finally telling Rose about what happened to him while she was away. And then there's the Ninth Doctor coming to Jacob after the Time War. I'll be busy. :)
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Date: 2007-07-29 09:54 am (UTC)Completely agree. (Sorry, don't know how to quote you in italics.)
Actually, we'll get into a bit of that in chapter six of The Hidden Well.
Hmm, interesting... after their endearing moments with Jonah, it would only seem natural that this subject was tackled now.
For the conversation ... I think he had some hope, for a moment, that she was pregnant.
I think the look on his face certainly suggested that. Up until that point, I hadn't considered that the relationship had gone further than we'd seen. After that, I saw the last few episodes in a completely different light.
there's the abundance of secondary characters, and that is challenging -- not to get too far afield but to make sure that they have their own personalities and motivations that are evident to the reader.
I love your OC's. Jacob has been a revelation. I almost believe he is part of official canon!
I'll be busy. :)
Goodie! These sound great! Incicidently, do you plan to do a vignette where Jackie sees (or has seen) the recording?
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Date: 2007-07-29 01:09 pm (UTC)You can wrap the desired words in an HTML italics tag, which is < i > then < / i > (Minus the spaces of course. I had no idea how to get them to show otherwise.)
Up until that point, I hadn't considered that the relationship had gone further than we'd seen. After that, I saw the last few episodes in a completely different light.
They were totally shagging. I am sorry. My canon says it happened after Fear Her, but I really think any time after TIP/TSP is plausible. I don't think she was physically intimate with Nine (although I do love a good Nine/Rose romance). Canon doesn't seem to bear it out. I do think they were both starting to think seriously about it, though.
I love your OC's. Jacob has been a revelation.
I miss Jacob. That may be silly.
Incicidently, do you plan to do a vignette where Jackie sees (or has seen) the recording?
That would be telling, considering the cliffhanger I left at the end of the last vignette from Pete's World. ;) I will say that I do intend to write more of those vignettes, and yes, I'll get back to Jackie and Mickey for certain.
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Date: 2007-07-30 08:05 pm (UTC)Yes, I go with the majority and reckon the relationship became physical after TIP/TSP (although, I guess some could argue it happened anytime after AoS).
I do love a good Nine/Rose romance
I like reading Nine/Rose too (I must confess to having a bit of a thing about Nine – all dark and brooding and Mancunian accent…). If you want a really good one, try lillibet’s ‘Strange Magicks’ – it’s the only other fic I’ve been avidly following for months. The Nine/Rose sexual tension is at boiling point and there is a very interesting plot developing, with some strong OC’s. ‘Heart-shaped,’ also by lillibet, is very good (she has Nine/Rose off to a tee.) BUT, don’t go spending toooo much time reading, when you could be writing… ;o)
One other thing I don’t think I mentioned when you first posted VoD, was how well I thought you portrayed Rose when she was living on the parallel Earth. I don’t like fics which have her trying to commit suicide, because for me, that is totally OOC. As broken and devastated as she was, she would pick herself up and carry on. Just as he said that her name is what keeps him fighting, I’m sure it is his memory which would motivate her to make the best of what she had. I thought you depicted this perfectly.
Oh, and I'm so glad you'll be coming back to Jackie, Mickey and Pete :o)
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Date: 2007-07-30 11:12 pm (UTC)I don’t like fics which have her trying to commit suicide, because for me, that is totally OOC
It would be a hell of a challenge for her, but she's up to it. I have no doubt. The one exception that proves the rule for me is entilzha's A Papier Mache Mephistopheles (http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=10187&warning=NC-17), which is marvelous.
In general, I think Rose probably coped better with their separation than the Doctor did in S3. In my 'verse, she absolutely did. He hasn't gotten into the nitty-gritty of what happened to him while she was away, but I do intend to get into that in another (yes, another) story.
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Date: 2007-07-31 08:39 am (UTC)Ah, that is true, I suppose. I have read this story and I do like entilzaha's work, so I'll give you that one :o)
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Date: 2007-08-01 02:27 am (UTC)Just posted chapter 7.