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kalleah ([personal profile] kalleah) wrote2007-11-29 09:03 pm
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Everyone's talking, so why not me?

There's been a lot of discussion about the recent Doctor Who news, and I didn't really want to jump in and discuss at first.  If you've managed to avoid the news, you have much more restraint and self-discipline than I have, and I'll put the discussion under a cut of course.

I've hoped for and dreaded the news of Billie Piper's return for a long time.  Hoped for because I love Rose as a character and felt there were a lot of loose ends between her and the Doctor, and dreaded because if they screw it up, I'll be furious.  Better to leave a storyline and a character at loose ends than to betray them with a trite ending.

Now, I do trust RTD to some extent -- but Doomsday broke my heart, and, after all, this is the man who brought us Dobby!Doctor and Tinkerbell!Doctor.  He, to his credit, also brought us Utopia and The Sound of Drums.  The reunion of the Doctor and Jack was as fantastic as I hoped it would be.  It dealt frankly with the issues surrounding the Doctor's abandonment of Jack, and didn't shy away from the emotional consequences for both of them.  I can only hope we have this kind of resolution with Rose.

I don't think it will come to a shock to anyone that I'm a Doctor/Rose shipper.  I prefer Ten/Rose because, while I love Nine (he was my first Doctor, after all), I think their relationship is more intimate.  I mean that in the sense of personal intimacy, which can be distinct from physical intimacy.  These are two people who were wrapped up in each other to a very large degree.  Their story didn't feel finished to me.

I am pleased that we're (apparently) going to see some meeting of the various companions.  Whether that means just Donna and Rose or Donna, Martha, and Rose, I think that's a good thing.  All three have very different relationships with the Doctor and I suspect that he's in for a great deal of trouble if they meet.  (Heh.)

So ... what am I saying?

I'm apprehensive.  I have a huge case of "I'll believe it when I see it."  I'm amusingly, self-absorbedly thinking about the impact on my own personal canon.  (And on that note, yes, I'm still working on The Hidden Well and have plans for a few other stories in the same continuity.  So I'm now officially AU.  I was pretty close before.  Whatever.)

I want Mickey and Jackie back, too.

[identity profile] ivydoor.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
All three have very different relationships with the Doctor and I suspect that he's in for a great deal of trouble if they meet. (Heh.)

As I've said elsewhere, throw Jackie in that mix and call it a party. Anyone for popcorn?

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
throw Jackie in that mix and call it a party

The comic potential is amazing. It's like slapping bookends.

[identity profile] earlgreytea68.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! Mickey and Jackie! Rose had better come complete with EVERYTHING.

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Pete is optional for me but I want Mickey and Jackie. If I have to pick just one, Mickey. Over his time on the series, he showed more character development than anyone. I miss him.

[identity profile] misssara11.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
*pats and consoles*

NOW BACK TO WORK!

Hee!

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Slavedriver. I've written 600 words. Give me some credit. ;)

[identity profile] misssara11.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Well done. Have a cookie:

Edited 2007-11-30 03:47 (UTC)

[identity profile] jigglykat.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I want Mickey and Jackie as well.

And, as I've said elsewhere, I want my TARDIS Pedicure Party with Rose, Martha, Donna and just for the heck of it, Sarah Jane, gossiping about the Doctor and being girly.

And Jack is their cabana boy.

And the Doctor is outside with the Enormous Pout of Rassion.

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I want my TARDIS Pedicure Party with Rose, Martha, Donna and just for the heck of it, Sarah Jane ... And Jack is their cabana boy.

Jack would totally paint his toenails.

And the Doctor is outside with the Enormous Pout of Rassion.

::points to icon::

[identity profile] jigglykat.livejournal.com 2007-12-01 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Jack TOTALLY would. Oh, the art bunnies... they are nibbling at my toes...

BEHOLD, THAT IS IT!

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-12-01 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
HA. I can't wait to see it.

[identity profile] ladyofgallifrey.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, it's AWESOME AU and if things don't work out quite like we might hope, I'll be "living in AU-land" with fics like "Calm" and "Voyage". I've been in an official state of denial since DD and now I have to struggle over whether to try to watch the S4 eps at all or continue my 'boycott' until I know it's "safe". DD completely shattered me and I will never be able to watch it again (heck, I don't know when, if ever, I'll be able to watch any S2 eps after New Earth!) so I'm with you on the apprehension thing. We may get what we want and then we'll have to face another ending, one way or another. Sigh.

(btw, that cookie looks GOOD!)
Edited 2007-11-30 04:47 (UTC)

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't give up on Doctor Who because of Doomsday. It's entirely too good for that.

I enjoyed series 3 (even, at points, the generally-detestable Dalek episodes) and it was worth watching. I don't watch because of Rose -- although I enjoyed the dynamic between her and the Doctor.

Without S3 you've missed so much. The Doctor and Donna on Segways. Brannigan and the Face of Boe. Jack. Human Nature. I could go on.

I'd love to have Rose back but I'm with the show for the duration regardless.

[identity profile] blackcat-1.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I was on the floor laughing at your post! I was wondering when you were going to say something about this rather large revelation. I totally agree with what you've said with regard to trusting RTD. I have to say that as much as I cried at DD, I also loved it. It was one of the most romantic and heartbreaking scenes I have ever seen on television (no, correction - THE most) and that's why I love it so much.
I have believed that Rose would return ever since it was announced that she was leaving, and earlier in the year, I wrote an essay detailing (and attempting to evidence) my reasons for believing that her story was far from over. Therefore , I was delighted (albeit, not surprised) at this news, but also a little apprehensive. There is so much potential here for amazing storylines which need not result in another heartbreak - it's sci-fi after all and I hope RTD does justice to their characters and relationship. I truly believe that he has cultivated a character of greater significance than a companion, in Rose (ducks as anti-D/R shippers throw things)and as such, her place within the new series will be as fundamental to the show as the Doctor's.

Sorry, Kalleah - didn't mean to hijack you thread...
Looking forward to your next chapter! :o)

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to say that as much as I cried at DD, I also loved it.

It was heartbreaking, and the level of emotional involvement that so many people does indicate that RTD succeeded with what he was trying to do. It still hurts, though.

You're right about the rest. There's so much potential.

[identity profile] qtrhorserider.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean about your continuity. I'm kinda nervous about how they will wrap things up. But then I remembered, what I'm writing is AU anyway so I can sit back and enjoy the show.

I, too, hope they refrain from a trite ending. Rose is such a fantastic character, she deserves better. I've said this about Martha too. She didn't really get her due until SOD and LotTL.

[identity profile] kalleah.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
We'll just have to see, won't we?

Is it April yet?